tackling captcha issues

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tackling captcha issues

Postby Tweety » 12 Aug 2018, 11:29

so recently a small number of people have been getting captcha issues. to sum it up, the issue is going to be on your side, not ours. the factors are decided by our captcha agent, not us as much as you think. however, this thread will be used to help you tackle the issue and point you in the right direction. il be able to use the info we collect to determine what kind of users are being affected, why, and the factors that cause icky captcha experiences.

to start off, il need your country that you are in, device, if you are using a vpn/tunneling services/vps's and if so, which vpn it is, if you are using any chrome/firefox plugins (ex; adblock) and last of all, your browser+version.

ex;

florida, USA
no vpns or any of that sort
chrome plugins; adblock, redux, magic enhancer
chrome 68.0.3440.106 (Official Build) (64-bit) (latest)

all captcha issues should be reported in this thread, and this thread only.
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Re: tackling captcha issues

Postby Henotic » 15 Aug 2018, 17:01

I honestly don't expect this to come of anything, but hey, maybe it'll help a bit. For the past few months I've been getting several rounds of CAPTCHAs with tiles/pictures that are extremely slow to load or just flat out stay gray. Some days it's not too terrible, I have to do maybe 3-4 stages, but other times it'll take me through 9 or more rounds of CAPTCHAs, which is just absolutely infuriating when it pops up once every several books. Hopefully, this is something that can be fixed without requiring users to abandon their VPNs, because I hate to say it but I'd just move to a different service if it comes down to it. Additionally, it sometimes loads extremely noise-filled pictures that make it even harder and more aggravating.

My answers may be a little bit vague due to privacy concerns but I don't believe it will have an undue impact on the information it provides.

Location: East Coast, USA
VPN: Private Internet Access
Operating System: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, Windows 10 (latest version, cannot check version number atm)
Browser: Firefox Quantum 61.0.1 for Ubuntu
Browser plugins: Firefox, uBlock Origin (with most user lists enabled), Privacy badger.


Hopefully, this will result in something more than just a "The issue is on your end, stop browsing from behind a VPN," because I would much sooner abandon this site than my VPN. I honestly enjoy this website, but the only thing that is keeping me here right now is the Happy Sex tag and the fact that I can favorite that and immediately see which doujins are up my ally. However, with every hate-filled 8+ round CAPTCHA I have to fill out, I get closer and closer to just saying "fuck it" and finding a new source.
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Re: tackling captcha issues

Postby Tweety » 16 Aug 2018, 03:44

Henotic wrote:I honestly don't expect this to come of anything, but hey, maybe it'll help a bit. For the past few months I've been getting several rounds of CAPTCHAs with tiles/pictures that are extremely slow to load or just flat out stay gray. Some days it's not too terrible, I have to do maybe 3-4 stages, but other times it'll take me through 9 or more rounds of CAPTCHAs, which is just absolutely infuriating when it pops up once every several books. Hopefully, this is something that can be fixed without requiring users to abandon their VPNs, because I hate to say it but I'd just move to a different service if it comes down to it. Additionally, it sometimes loads extremely noise-filled pictures that make it even harder and more aggravating.

My answers may be a little bit vague due to privacy concerns but I don't believe it will have an undue impact on the information it provides.

Location: East Coast, USA
VPN: Private Internet Access
Operating System: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, Windows 10 (latest version, cannot check version number atm)
Browser: Firefox Quantum 61.0.1 for Ubuntu
Browser plugins: Firefox, uBlock Origin (with most user lists enabled), Privacy badger.


Hopefully, this will result in something more than just a "The issue is on your end, stop browsing from behind a VPN," because I would much sooner abandon this site than my VPN. I honestly enjoy this website, but the only thing that is keeping me here right now is the Happy Sex tag and the fact that I can favorite that and immediately see which doujins are up my ally. However, with every hate-filled 8+ round CAPTCHA I have to fill out, I get closer and closer to just saying "fuck it" and finding a new source.


combination of privacy badger and your vpn is causing the issues. disable both and tell me if the issue persists.
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Re: tackling captcha issues

Postby Saika » 20 Aug 2018, 02:16

I have my doubts about the fact VPNs and Browser addons do much to the reCapchat resolution at all.

I literally had to resolves 25 bugged titles walls right now for a simple comment using a standard smartphone on a legitimate Firefox app on a legitimate modem in Spain (credit to my friend that doesn't know he's tagged as a hentai pervert now). Meaning there wasn't anything suspicious at all tampering with my browsing. And sometime it's so long I just give up.

It is sad to say, but my patience is starting to run out with these capchats. I started browsing my Japanese porn here because the site started of the old Pururin, and aside from a few select users, this comunity is great... but there is a limit to everything.
If a important feature doesn't work for many people (with all due respect, I do not think the small number of people experiencing this issue is small at all, they're just uncary enough to complain here), then that means it's broken server side.
Also even with my ultra customized and tunneled browser I don't have that much trouble on other websites with reCapchat, even on 4chan I have to solve at most 3-4 titles walls.

And even if VPNs and Add ons had something to do with it, do you really expect that we'd browse this website in the clear at home while even the most "free" countries like France redirect hentai websites to pedoporn warning pages ?
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Re: tackling captcha issues

Postby Tweety » 20 Aug 2018, 10:39

Saika wrote:I have my doubts about the fact VPNs and Browser addons do much to the reCapchat resolution at all.

I literally had to resolves 25 bugged titles walls right now for a simple comment using a standard smartphone on a legitimate Firefox app on a legitimate modem in Spain (credit to my friend that doesn't know he's tagged as a hentai pervert now). Meaning there wasn't anything suspicious at all tampering with my browsing. And sometime it's so long I just give up.

It is sad to say, but my patience is starting to run out with these capchats. I started browsing my Japanese porn here because the site started of the old Pururin, and aside from a few select users, this comunity is great... but there is a limit to everything.
If a important feature doesn't work for many people (with all due respect, I do not think the small number of people experiencing this issue is small at all, they're just uncary enough to complain here), then that means it's broken server side.
Also even with my ultra customized and tunneled browser I don't have that much trouble on other websites with reCapchat, even on 4chan I have to solve at most 3-4 titles walls.

And even if VPNs and Add ons had something to do with it, do you really expect that we'd browse this website in the clear at home while even the most "free" countries like France redirect hentai websites to pedoporn warning pages ?


You can keep going on bout your speculation but I can't help you if you don't do as I say and post back results.
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Re: tackling captcha issues

Postby Henotic » 25 Aug 2018, 06:42

Tweety wrote:
Henotic wrote:I honestly don't expect this to come of anything, but hey, maybe it'll help a bit. For the past few months I've been getting several rounds of CAPTCHAs with tiles/pictures that are extremely slow to load or just flat out stay gray. Some days it's not too terrible, I have to do maybe 3-4 stages, but other times it'll take me through 9 or more rounds of CAPTCHAs, which is just absolutely infuriating when it pops up once every several books. Hopefully, this is something that can be fixed without requiring users to abandon their VPNs, because I hate to say it but I'd just move to a different service if it comes down to it. Additionally, it sometimes loads extremely noise-filled pictures that make it even harder and more aggravating.

My answers may be a little bit vague due to privacy concerns but I don't believe it will have an undue impact on the information it provides.

Location: East Coast, USA
VPN: Private Internet Access
Operating System: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, Windows 10 (latest version, cannot check version number atm)
Browser: Firefox Quantum 61.0.1 for Ubuntu
Browser plugins: Firefox, uBlock Origin (with most user lists enabled), Privacy badger.


Hopefully, this will result in something more than just a "The issue is on your end, stop browsing from behind a VPN," because I would much sooner abandon this site than my VPN. I honestly enjoy this website, but the only thing that is keeping me here right now is the Happy Sex tag and the fact that I can favorite that and immediately see which doujins are up my ally. However, with every hate-filled 8+ round CAPTCHA I have to fill out, I get closer and closer to just saying "fuck it" and finding a new source.


combination of privacy badger and your vpn is causing the issues. disable both and tell me if the issue persists.


Sorry, but that just isn't gonna happen. Considering half the content on this website, there's no way that I'm gonna risk accessing this site on an unencrypted and personally identifiable connection. Hell, this site doesn't even support HTTPS! The solution here is pretty simple; remove the CAPTCHA for viewing books. It makes sense to have CAPTCHA authentication to prevent spam comments, but all having CAPCHAs between books does is harm a legitimate user's experience. Or, at the very least, it should only prompt for a single round of CAPTCHAs, and that should verify the user's identity for the rest of their browsing session. If it was only one CAPTCHA at the beginning of my browsing session, instead of a whole new round of CAPTCHAs every 5-6 books, I would have no problem at all with the measure.
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Re: tackling captcha issues

Postby Korde » 25 Aug 2018, 07:34

Henotic wrote:
Tweety wrote:
Henotic wrote:I honestly don't expect this to come of anything, but hey, maybe it'll help a bit. For the past few months I've been getting several rounds of CAPTCHAs with tiles/pictures that are extremely slow to load or just flat out stay gray. Some days it's not too terrible, I have to do maybe 3-4 stages, but other times it'll take me through 9 or more rounds of CAPTCHAs, which is just absolutely infuriating when it pops up once every several books. Hopefully, this is something that can be fixed without requiring users to abandon their VPNs, because I hate to say it but I'd just move to a different service if it comes down to it. Additionally, it sometimes loads extremely noise-filled pictures that make it even harder and more aggravating.

My answers may be a little bit vague due to privacy concerns but I don't believe it will have an undue impact on the information it provides.

Location: East Coast, USA
VPN: Private Internet Access
Operating System: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, Windows 10 (latest version, cannot check version number atm)
Browser: Firefox Quantum 61.0.1 for Ubuntu
Browser plugins: Firefox, uBlock Origin (with most user lists enabled), Privacy badger.


Hopefully, this will result in something more than just a "The issue is on your end, stop browsing from behind a VPN," because I would much sooner abandon this site than my VPN. I honestly enjoy this website, but the only thing that is keeping me here right now is the Happy Sex tag and the fact that I can favorite that and immediately see which doujins are up my ally. However, with every hate-filled 8+ round CAPTCHA I have to fill out, I get closer and closer to just saying "fuck it" and finding a new source.


combination of privacy badger and your vpn is causing the issues. disable both and tell me if the issue persists.


Sorry, but that just isn't gonna happen. Considering half the content on this website, there's no way that I'm gonna risk accessing this site on an unencrypted and personally identifiable connection. Hell, this site doesn't even support HTTPS! The solution here is pretty simple; remove the CAPTCHA for viewing books. It makes sense to have CAPTCHA authentication to prevent spam comments, but all having CAPCHAs between books does is harm a legitimate user's experience. Or, at the very least, it should only prompt for a single round of CAPTCHAs, and that should verify the user's identity for the rest of their browsing session. If it was only one CAPTCHA at the beginning of my browsing session, instead of a whole new round of CAPTCHAs every 5-6 books, I would have no problem at all with the measure.

The site does have https, it just defaults to http is all. You have to manually change it to https. You can use something like HTTPS everywhere to force it, or Redirector with a custom redirect to make it redirect to https over http.

Your choice how you do it, but the option is available.
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Re: tackling captcha issues

Postby Tweety » 25 Aug 2018, 08:07

Henotic wrote:
Tweety wrote:
Henotic wrote:I honestly don't expect this to come of anything, but hey, maybe it'll help a bit. For the past few months I've been getting several rounds of CAPTCHAs with tiles/pictures that are extremely slow to load or just flat out stay gray. Some days it's not too terrible, I have to do maybe 3-4 stages, but other times it'll take me through 9 or more rounds of CAPTCHAs, which is just absolutely infuriating when it pops up once every several books. Hopefully, this is something that can be fixed without requiring users to abandon their VPNs, because I hate to say it but I'd just move to a different service if it comes down to it. Additionally, it sometimes loads extremely noise-filled pictures that make it even harder and more aggravating.

My answers may be a little bit vague due to privacy concerns but I don't believe it will have an undue impact on the information it provides.

Location: East Coast, USA
VPN: Private Internet Access
Operating System: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, Windows 10 (latest version, cannot check version number atm)
Browser: Firefox Quantum 61.0.1 for Ubuntu
Browser plugins: Firefox, uBlock Origin (with most user lists enabled), Privacy badger.


Hopefully, this will result in something more than just a "The issue is on your end, stop browsing from behind a VPN," because I would much sooner abandon this site than my VPN. I honestly enjoy this website, but the only thing that is keeping me here right now is the Happy Sex tag and the fact that I can favorite that and immediately see which doujins are up my ally. However, with every hate-filled 8+ round CAPTCHA I have to fill out, I get closer and closer to just saying "fuck it" and finding a new source.


combination of privacy badger and your vpn is causing the issues. disable both and tell me if the issue persists.


Sorry, but that just isn't gonna happen. Considering half the content on this website, there's no way that I'm gonna risk accessing this site on an unencrypted and personally identifiable connection. Hell, this site doesn't even support HTTPS! The solution here is pretty simple; remove the CAPTCHA for viewing books. It makes sense to have CAPTCHA authentication to prevent spam comments, but all having CAPCHAs between books does is harm a legitimate user's experience. Or, at the very least, it should only prompt for a single round of CAPTCHAs, and that should verify the user's identity for the rest of their browsing session. If it was only one CAPTCHA at the beginning of my browsing session, instead of a whole new round of CAPTCHAs every 5-6 books, I would have no problem at all with the measure.


we'll your issue is solved then, you get extended captchas for using a vpn and privacy badger. do not complain or reply on this thread unless it's a test running without them.

this proves captcha isn't as a big of an issue as people think it is, using things that will make you look suspicious to Google means you will incur a captcha.

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Re: tackling captcha issues

Postby asher6 » 03 Sep 2018, 22:29

don't laugh but i use the a wiiu gamepad it just convenient and it just wont even try to do the captcha
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Re: tackling captcha issues

Postby letmein » 09 Sep 2018, 04:14

germany
no vpn´s or anything of that kind
Firefox Addons: Adblock Plus, Noscipt, uBlock origin
Firefox 61.0.2 (64-Bit)

Google recaptcha is dead for me on this site. i have literally tried for over an hour to get through Captcha for starting one download. Some months ago i stopped trying at all. Interestingly it works on other Homepages which is strange (not perfectly but in a way that it is usable)
I have allready in detail explained my troubles to you in the past. Imho the solution would be to allow users to select another Captcha provider like solveMedia which doesnt cause these troubles to users. This exact solution was used by another site i visit and it cleared the Problems of everybody over there. Can you please say what you think of this solution?

I see you try to solve the Problem and im thankfull for that since my first impression was you decided it was the users fault and they should just f off.

It seems great Part of this whole topic is since you didnt make any mistake or change anything you see the problem with users that use some kinds of blockers / anonymity tools and then tell them to try without them. Naturally the users dont want to do that because they use these things for a reason.
Users see it the other way around: they didnt change anything so the problem must be on someone elses side (most blame you).
I think the Problem does not lie with blockers/proxys but with google deciding that if you solve alot of captchas you must be a bot and then increasingly hightening the deficulty of your captchas until you come to the point where i am where you cant resolve any captcha anymore. They seem to do this website specific because i can solve captchas on other sites with all the same settings&addons.

Hope we can somehow solve this and thanks for your efforts and site.

Edit: changed font colour since bright white hurt the eyes

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